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==Questions from James==
* Do you (Peter) consider the cropped images would be less good than uncropped images showing current classic theme.  (If we were doing that we would obviously go for Light, but I am asking to check whether the cropping itself is regarded as neutral).
**'''Peter 13Jun17:''' I have been looking carefully at each of these pages and images as I work on the image spreadsheet.  The ones that are marked, or remain to be marked as TCP croppable are at worst neutral - and in most of those cases I'm thinking that it is actally an improvement, providing more visual focus on what we want the user to pay attention to. Where the TCP provides necessary context for understanding, these will be tagged for update to Light theme (I was thinking mandraullically, some are quite tricky, but you may wish to consider automagic). ''I'm seriously considering adding a note in Connie to suuggest that where possible/suitable new images should avoid the TCP.''
* How far should we crop?  Crop vertical-ruler out completely, leave it complete, or crop half way?
**'''Peter 13Jun17:'''My thinking as that we trim just the TCP and leave the whole of the vertical ruler, but I'm open to persuasion (I'm definitely -1 to halving the vertical ruler).
***Now here's an interesting example page [[Editing, resizing and moving Labels]].  Here you will see the early images on the page started out with no TCP but with a Verical Ruler - the later images have the TCP too.  So if we trim off the TCP and the VR from the later images we would need to trim the VR from the early ones (i'' mark it mandraulic update pro tem while we consider).  Before I stumbled onto this page I experimented just now with trims witout the VR as well as without the TCP - and I thought I was liking them that way.
****'''Peter 13Jun17:''' I just trimmed this page [[Compressor]] mandraullically (as it had odd sizings) - I think it looks better with the TCP. what do you think Jsmes?
*'''Peter 13Jun17:''' What you will get when I have finished my image trawl is, in addition to an excel list(s) of image files, a page ''(probably this Talk page which I'm using as a temporary image workbench as I go - but maybe tagged on the end of the page with the affected pages list)'' with all the images (derived from the Excel lists.  This will give you a chance to think about just how much you want to trim.  The Excel spreadsheet has several lists as there are different widths required to trim the TCP.

==Images==
===Comments to James re auto-trimming===
There appear to be three different widths obtaining for a TCP auto-trim
#'''Standard''' - by far the most occurrent
#'''Wider''' - reasonably occurrent
#'''Middling''' - just five of these and all on the one page

Editing this page is one way to get the file lists - I will also be sending you my spreadsheet that I worked from to create this.

===Standard width===
*[[File:Selected_audio_-_for_Tour_Guide.png]]
*[[File:A_small_image_of_an_Envelope.png]]
*[[File:A_small_Spectral_Selection.png]]
*[[File:A_small_image_of_Sync-Lock.png]]
*[[File:Connect_dots_&_Stem_plot_examples.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_Intro_01.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_Intro_02.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_01.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_02.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_03.png
*[[File:SpectrogramView_05.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_03a.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_05a.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_06.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_07.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_08.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_09.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_15.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_12.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_13.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_14.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_10a.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_10.png]]
*[[File:SpectrogramView_11.png]]
*[[File:SndAudacityWave.png]]
*[[File:SndChirp.png]]
*[[File:SndAudacityDb.png]]
*[[File:SndAudacitySpectrogram.png]]
*[[File:EditSelectSyncLockAfter.png]]
*[[File:WaveForTutorial1.png]]
*[[File:TenSecondSelection.png]]
*[[File:TenSecondTrimmedAudio.png]]
*[[File:Tutorial3Cough.png]]
*[[File:Tutorial3Split.png]]
*[[File:Tutorial3LabelsInPlace.png]]
*[[File:Tutorial3LinedUp.png]]
*[[File:Tutorial3Envelope.png]]
*[[File:Loop_selection.png]]
*[[File:Loop_start.png]]
*[[File:Loop_end.png]]
*[[File:Zero-crossing.png]]
*[[File:Fade_In.png]]
*[[File:Fade_Out.png]]
*[[File:Pro_Fade_Out.png]]
*[[File:Adjustable_Fade_Out_to_30_percent.png]]
*[[File:Linear-fade-in.png]]
*[[File:Gunshot.png]]
*[[File:Bell.png]]
*[[File:Repeated-fade-out.png]]
*[[File:Exponential-fade-in.png]]
*[[File:Logarithmic-fade-in.png]]
*[[File:Logarithmic-fade-out.png]]
*[[File:Equal_power_cross-fade.png]]
*[[File:Raised-cosine-fade.png]]
*[[File:High-curve.png]]
*[[File:Adjustable-Fades-Simple-Curves.png]]
*[[File:Click-at-start.png]]
*[[File:Fade-in-start.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-overlap-tracks.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-beat-match.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-split-tracks.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-trimmed.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-complete.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-selected-region.png]]
*[[File:Crossfade-tracks-effect-completed.png]]
*[[File:Xfade_Example-1.png]]
*[[File:Xfade_Example-2.png]]
*[[File:Xfade_Example-3.png]]
*[[File:Xfade_Example-4.png]]
*[[File:Glitch_repair_before.png]]
*[[File:Glitch_repair_after.png]]
*[[File:Adjustable-Fades-Simple-Curves.png]]
*[[File:Silence-Sound_Finder_six_songs.png]]
*[[File:Silence_Finder_six_songs_shown.png]]
*[[File:Sound_Finder_six_songs_shown.png]]
*[[File:Zoom9.png]]
*[[File:Envelope2.png]]
*[[File:Envelope3.png]]
*[[File:TrackWithName.png]]
*[[File:Rolldown.png]]
*[[File:Rollup.png]]
*[[File:LatencyTest01.png]]
*[[File:LatencyTest02.png]]
*[[File:LatencyTest03.png]]
*[[File:LatencyTest04.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_spectrogram_view.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_spectrogram_view_click_labelled.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_click_labelled.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_click_labelled_and_zoomed_red_arrows.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_clicks_deleted.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_click_repaired_for_test.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_discontinuity_selected.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_discontinuity_repaired.png]]
*[[File:Clicky_example_waveform_view_click_repaired_for_final_testing.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_selection_start_pre.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_selection_start_post.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_selection_end_pre.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_selection_end_post.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_track_start-end_pre.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_track_start_post.png]]
*[[File:Move_cursor_to_track_end_post.png]]


===Wider width===
*[[File:Stereo_Track_Example.PNG]]
*[[File:TrackExampleDB.png]]
*[[File:TrackExampleClipping.png]]
*[[File:Stereo_Track_Example.PNG]]
*[[File:TrackExampleDB.png]]
*[[File:TrackExampleClipping.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_02.png]]
*[[File:EditSelectBefore.png]]
*[[File:EditSelectAllTracksAfter.png]]
*[[File:EditSelectBefore.png]]
*[[File:Zoom8.png]]
*[[File:Envelope0.png]]
*[[File:Envelope1.png]]
*[[File:Envelope4.png]]
*[[File:Envelope5.png]]
*[[File:Envelope6.png]]
*[[File:Track_audio_before_zero.png]]
*[[File:Track_audio_before_zero.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_01.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_02.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_02a.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_03.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_03a.png]]
*[[File:Spectral_03b.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_01.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_02.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_03.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_03a.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_04.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_05.png]]
*[[File:SpectralEdit_06.png]]
*[[File:SplitBefore.png]]
*[[File:SplitAfter.png]]
*[[File:SplitMove.png]]
*[[File:ClipsMoveTogetherBefore.png]]
*[[File:ClipsMoveTogetherAfter.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo01.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo02.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo03.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo04.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo05.png]]
*[[File:TimeShiftStereo06.png]]
*[[File:Clips017a.png]]
*[[File:Clips017b.png]]
*[[File:Clips017c.png]]
*[[File:Zoom0.png]]
*[[File:Zoom1.png]]
*[[File:Zoom2.png]]
*[[File:Zoom3.png]]
*[[File:Zoom4.png]]
*[[File:Zoom5.png]]
*[[File:Zoom6.png]]
*[[File:Zoom7.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack0.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack1.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack2.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack3.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack4.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack5.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack6.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack8.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack9.png]]
*[[File:LabelTrack7.png]]
*[[File:SnapGuideDrag.png]]
*[[File:SnapGuides.png]]
*[[File:Snapping_to_a_point_label.png]]
*[[File:FindZeroCrossingBefore.png]]
*[[File:FindZeroCrossingAfter.png]]
*[[File:PasteTextToNewLabelBefore.png]]
*[[File:PasteTextToNewLabelAfter.png]]
*[[File:LabeledBeforeCut.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterCutOrDelete.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterSplitCut.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterSilenceAudio.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterPaste.png]]
*[[File:LabeledBeforeSplit.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterSplit.png]]
*[[File:LabeledBeforeJoin.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterJoin.png]]
*[[File:LabeledBeforeDetach.png]]
*[[File:LabeledAfterDetach.png]]
*[[File:Example01_Before.png]]
*[[File:Example01_After.png]]
*[[File:Example02_After.png]]
*[[File:Clips001New.png]]
*[[File:Clips003New.png]]
*[[File:RemoveLabelBefore.png]]
*[[File:RemoveLabelAfterSplitDelete.png]]
*[[File:Clips005New.png]]
*[[File:Clips001TrimBeforeNew.png]]
*[[File:Clips004TrimAfterNew.png]]


===Middling width===
*[[File:History01_2-2-0.png]]
*[[File:History02_2-2-0.png]]
*[[File:History03_2-2-0.png]]
*[[File:History04_2-2-0.png]]
*[[File:History05_2-2-0.png]]