User talk:PeterSampson/Pages with TCP displayed

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Questions from James

  • Do you (Peter) consider the cropped images would be less good than uncropped images showing current classic theme. (If we were doing that we would obviously go for Light, but I am asking to check whether the cropping itself is regarded as neutral).
    • Peter 13Jun17: I have been looking carefully at each of these pages and images as I work on the image spreadsheet. The ones that are marked, or remain to be marked as TCP croppable are at worst neutral - and in most of those cases I'm thinking that it is actally an improvement, providing more visual focus on what we want the user to pay attention to. Where the TCP provides necessary context for understanding, these will be tagged for update to Light theme (I was thinking mandraullically, some are quite tricky, but you may wish to consider automagic). I'm seriously considering adding a note in Connie to suuggest that where possible/suitable new images should avoid the TCP.
  • How far should we crop? Crop vertical-ruler out completely, leave it complete, or crop half way?
    • Peter 13Jun17:My thinking as that we trim just the TCP and leave the whole of the vertical ruler, but I'm open to persuasion (I'm definitely -1 to halving the vertical ruler).
      • Now here's an interesting example page Editing, resizing and moving Labels. Here you will see the early images on the page started out with no TCP but with a Verical Ruler - the later images have the TCP too. So if we trim off the TCP and the VR from the later images we would need to trim the VR from the early ones (i mark it mandraulic update pro tem while we consider). Before I stumbled onto this page I experimented just now with trims witout the VR as well as without the TCP - and I thought I was liking them that way.
        • Peter 13Jun17: I just trimmed this page Compressor mandraullically (as it had odd sizings) - I think it looks better with the TCP. what do you think Jsmes?
  • Peter 13Jun17: What you will get when I have finished my image trawl is, in addition to an excel list(s) of image files, a page (probably this Talk page which I'm using as a temporary image workbench as I go - but maybe tagged on the end of the page with the affected pages list) with all the images (derived from the Excel lists. This will give you a chance to think about just how much you want to trim. The Excel spreadsheet has several lists as there are different widths required to trim the TCP.

Images

Comments to James re auto-trimming

There appear to be three different widths obtaining for a TCP auto-trim

  1. Standard - by far the most occurrent
  2. Wider - reasonably occurrent
  3. Middling - just five of these and all on the one page

Editing this page is one way to get the file lists - I will also be sending you my spreadsheet that I worked from to create this.

Standard width

  • Selected audio - for Tour Guide.png
  • A small image of an Envelope.png
  • A small Spectral Selection.png
  • A small image of Sync-Lock.png
  • Connect dots & Stem plot examples.png
  • SpectrogramView Intro 01.png
  • SpectrogramView Intro 02.png
  • SpectrogramView 01.png
  • SpectrogramView 02.png
  • [[File:SpectrogramView_03.png
  • SpectrogramView 05.png
  • SpectrogramView 03a.png
  • SpectrogramView 05a.png
  • SpectrogramView 06.png
  • SpectrogramView 07.png
  • SpectrogramView 08.png
  • SpectrogramView 09.png
  • SpectrogramView 15.png
  • SpectrogramView 12.png
  • SpectrogramView 13.png
  • SpectrogramView 14.png
  • SpectrogramView 10a.png
  • SpectrogramView 10.png
  • SpectrogramView 11.png
  • SndAudacityWave.png
  • SndChirp.png
  • SndAudacityDb.png
  • SndAudacitySpectrogram.png
  • EditSelectSyncLockAfter.png
  • WaveForTutorial1.png
  • TenSecondSelection.png
  • TenSecondTrimmedAudio.png
  • Tutorial3Cough.png
  • Tutorial3Split.png
  • Tutorial3LabelsInPlace.png
  • Tutorial3LinedUp.png
  • Tutorial3Envelope.png
  • Loop selection.png
  • Loop start.png
  • Loop end.png
  • Zero-crossing.png
  • Fade In.png
  • Fade Out.png
  • Pro Fade Out.png
  • Adjustable Fade Out to 30 percent.png
  • Linear-fade-in.png
  • Gunshot.png
  • Bell.png
  • Repeated-fade-out.png
  • Exponential-fade-in.png
  • Logarithmic-fade-in.png
  • Logarithmic-fade-out.png
  • Equal power cross-fade.png
  • Raised-cosine-fade.png
  • High-curve.png
  • Adjustable-Fades-Simple-Curves.png
  • Click-at-start.png
  • Fade-in-start.png
  • Crossfade-overlap-tracks.png
  • Crossfade-beat-match.png
  • Crossfade-split-tracks.png
  • Crossfade-trimmed.png
  • Crossfade-complete.png
  • Crossfade-selected-region.png
  • Crossfade-tracks-effect-completed.png
  • Xfade Example-1.png
  • Xfade Example-2.png
  • Xfade Example-3.png
  • Xfade Example-4.png
  • Glitch repair before.png
  • Glitch repair after.png
  • Logarithmic-envelope.png
  • Equal-power-envelope.png
  • Adjustable-Fades-Simple-Curves.png
  • Silence-Sound Finder six songs.png
  • Silence Finder six songs shown.png
  • Sound Finder six songs shown.png
  • Zoom9.png
  • Envelope2.png
  • Envelope3.png
  • TrackWithName.png
  • Rolldown.png
  • Rollup.png
  • LatencyTest01.png
  • LatencyTest02.png
  • LatencyTest03.png
  • LatencyTest04.png
  • Clicky example waveform view.png
  • Clicky example spectrogram view.png
  • Clicky example spectrogram view click labelled.png
  • Clicky example waveform view click labelled.png
  • Clicky example waveform view click labelled and zoomed red arrows.png
  • Clicky example waveform view clicks deleted.png
  • Clicky example waveform view click repaired for test.png
  • Clicky example waveform view discontinuity selected.png
  • Clicky example waveform view discontinuity repaired.png
  • Clicky example waveform view click repaired for final testing.png
  • Move cursor to selection start pre.png
  • Move cursor to selection start post.png
  • Move cursor to selection end pre.png
  • Move cursor to selection end post.png
  • Move cursor to track start-end pre.png
  • Move cursor to track start post.png
  • Move cursor to track end post.png


Wider width

  • Stereo Track Example.PNG
  • TrackExampleDB.png
  • TrackExampleClipping.png
  • Stereo Track Example.PNG
  • TrackExampleDB.png
  • TrackExampleClipping.png
  • Spectral 02.png
  • EditSelectBefore.png
  • EditSelectAllTracksAfter.png
  • EditSelectBefore.png
  • Zoom8.png
  • Envelope0.png
  • Envelope1.png
  • Envelope4.png
  • Envelope5.png
  • Envelope6.png
  • Track audio before zero.png
  • Track audio before zero.png
  • Spectral 01.png
  • Spectral 02.png
  • Spectral 02a.png
  • Spectral 03.png
  • Spectral 03a.png
  • Spectral 03b.png
  • SpectralEdit 01.png
  • SpectralEdit 02.png
  • SpectralEdit 03.png
  • SpectralEdit 03a.png
  • SpectralEdit 04.png
  • SpectralEdit 05.png
  • SpectralEdit 06.png
  • SplitBefore.png
  • SplitAfter.png
  • SplitMove.png
  • ClipsMoveTogetherBefore.png
  • ClipsMoveTogetherAfter.png
  • TimeShiftStereo01.png
  • TimeShiftStereo02.png
  • TimeShiftStereo03.png
  • TimeShiftStereo04.png
  • TimeShiftStereo05.png
  • TimeShiftStereo06.png
  • Clips017a.png
  • Clips017b.png
  • Clips017c.png
  • Zoom0.png
  • Zoom1.png
  • Zoom2.png
  • Zoom3.png
  • Zoom4.png
  • Zoom5.png
  • Zoom6.png
  • Zoom7.png
  • LabelTrack0.png
  • LabelTrack1.png
  • LabelTrack2.png
  • LabelTrack3.png
  • LabelTrack4.png
  • LabelTrack5.png
  • LabelTrack6.png
  • LabelTrack8.png
  • LabelTrack9.png
  • LabelTrack7.png
  • SnapGuideDrag.png
  • SnapGuides.png
  • Snapping to a point label.png
  • FindZeroCrossingBefore.png
  • FindZeroCrossingAfter.png
  • PasteTextToNewLabelBefore.png
  • PasteTextToNewLabelAfter.png
  • LabeledBeforeCut.png
  • LabeledAfterCutOrDelete.png
  • LabeledAfterSplitCut.png
  • LabeledAfterSilenceAudio.png
  • LabeledAfterPaste.png
  • LabeledBeforeSplit.png
  • LabeledAfterSplit.png
  • LabeledBeforeJoin.png
  • LabeledAfterJoin.png
  • LabeledBeforeDetach.png
  • LabeledAfterDetach.png
  • Example01 Before.png
  • Example01 After.png
  • Example02 After.png
  • Clips001New.png
  • Clips003New.png
  • RemoveLabelBefore.png
  • RemoveLabelAfterSplitDelete.png
  • Clips005New.png
  • Clips001TrimBeforeNew.png
  • Clips004TrimAfterNew.png


Middling width

  • History01 2-2-0.png
  • History02 2-2-0.png
  • History03 2-2-0.png
  • History04 2-2-0.png
  • History05 2-2-0.png